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    Path of Exile Questions Thread - August 31, 2020

    Questions Thread - August 31, 2020

    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 05:08 PM PDT

    Questions Thread - August 31, 2020

    This is a general question thread on August 31, 2020. You can find the previous question threads here.

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    PoEsports Report: GAUNTLET, the Finale - So Long, and Thanks for All the RIPs!

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 04:56 AM PDT

    Unarmed Basic Attack Ascendant - A truly ethical build

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 07:53 AM PDT

    3.12 Clues are getting out of hand

    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 05:34 PM PDT

    The Canada East gateway has apparently been moved from Toronto to Montreal. I'm now experiencing an average ping of ~5ms from Montreal.

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 11:52 AM PDT

    [Suggestion] Use an offering on map device to spawn a random uber lab trial.

    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 11:36 PM PDT

    Just like using Sacrificial fragment on maps which spawn a random vaal side areas, let us use offering to the goddess on map device to spawn a random uber lab trial. Would love something like this which counters the bad rng streak to completing the 6 trials.

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    WTF happened to Kaom's Mask, when and why did they added this wibbly wobbly effect

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 05:48 AM PDT

    [HSC] I heard double curse rings are legacy

    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 09:41 PM PDT

    Boat League, Treasure Hunt League, Friendship League? It's clear what this is all pointing to...

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 10:05 AM PDT

    It's: One Piece League. Each map grants access to a random "Island" (side area with loot explosion) with a chance to drop "ponaglyphs" (shards) that when enough are combined together you can travel to "Raftel" where we have the big fight with a rival pirate gang (this is PoE, so the friends we made along the way). This can easily cover:

    -900 gems "devil fruit ability gems"

    -A Giant "a giant, take your pick"

    -13 NPCs "Straw Hats"

    -A new town-like area "The Sunny"

    -A cat with a monocle and bow tie "mink character"

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    Friendship league confirmed.

    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 07:25 PM PDT

    Detailed Crafting Guide for new exiles that are spoiled by Harvest crafting on the "olden ways" of RNG crafting. Timestamps in Comments.

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 11:18 AM PDT

    The book the new league is based on

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 07:12 AM PDT

    Phoenix Wright and Co debate about 3.12's theme.

    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 06:24 PM PDT

    Got 36 Challenges completed after starting last league. I know it's not much but I was pretty proud of finally getting it! None of my friends are into Path so I figured I'd share it here.

    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 10:27 PM PDT

    My first level 100, it had to be special

    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 02:30 PM PDT

    My first level 100, it had to be special

    I've played path of exile for 7 years, but haven't bothered reaching lvl 100 untill now, so the level up had to be special, and what's better than to level up by killing a false god in super slow motion? :)

    https://reddit.com/link/ijl0hz/video/ntrdx2s4j7k51/player

    Edit: youtube provides a bit better quality:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nywk5hVuFDY&feature=youtu.be

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    New PoE Podcast is coming! 'Inspired Learning' by Badger and Yoji

    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 10:52 PM PDT

    The list of Universal Min-Max

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 12:23 PM PDT

    Hello guys, since there's a new league coming soon and we will be receiving lots of new players to the game, i'm going to create something that i couldn't find myself when i was learning the game (And was sad that i couldn't find it haha) and i'll need your help, Reddit, to complete it!

    Behold, the list of all possible min-maxes that should (and can) be done to your character, regardless of your build! I'll try to give a estimated price to every min-max based of current Harvest league market prices, but you shouldn't focus too much on it, since prices change a lot with the passing of time and popularity of items.

    Currently, the order of the list is random, should i order it by difficulty (time and resources-wise) or by order of progression?

    EP = Estimated Price

    The list:

    1. Getting Better Gear - This should be the easier one to understand, you should get better gear as you get wealthier, specially if you use lots of rare items (since those normally are never 100% perfect). If you're following a guide, you should look for a section called "Current Gear"/"Endgame Gear" to see what items you should look for (EP: < 1c - hundreds of Ex)
    2. Quality your Gear - For starters, just quality up all your gear to 20% with your blacksmith's whetstones/armourer's scrap/glassblower's bauble. Once you've got more currency, you should get your gear to even higher quality values, using either Einhar's beastcraft with Craicic Vassal (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Beastcrafting) or Hillock's bench in the immortal syndicate (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Hillock,_the_Blacksmith) (You could say that you can also use Perfect Fossils to raise Quality, but those are only available to items that are going to be crafted, not very suited for min-maxing of the gear of new players) (EP: 5c - 200c)
    3. The Fabled 6-link - Some of you might wonder why is it so expensive to get 6-link, all sources of 6-linking your stuff are really rare or take a lot to reliably get it, the reason that it is like that it's because of the power of the support gems. In average, adding a DPS support gem to a skill gem raises it's final DPS by something like ~40%, which is HUGE, making it a must-have for a lot of builds. As you reach endgame, you can buy corrupted 5-link and 6-link chest piece (with desirables mods) for cheap and then later gather currency to get the right chest or 2 handed weapon to 6-link and you're done (sources of 6linking: Orb of fusings (it takes around 1000 to link it this way(quality your item before you do it)), Fated Connections (it's a prophecy that guarantees it) and through harvest crafting (won't be available in the next league)) (Worth mentioning. there's also a prophecy that guarantee's a 5-link, it's called Jeweller's touch and they are somewhat cheap). (EP: 1ex - 3ex)
    4. Annoint your amulet - Choose a good annoint for your build (your check your build guide for it) and then use Cassia and Oils to put it on your amulet, as easy as that! (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Oil) (EP: <1c - 75c)
    5. Catalysts - Catalyst are quality currency for jewellery (rings, amulet and belt) and they're specific to a certain type of mod (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Catalyst), get all your jewellery to 20% using them, dont forget to use the right one on each item! (EP: 25c - 5ex)
    6. Better Gems - This should be a no-brainer, higher level and quality on your gems makes you stronger. if your gems have a awakened variant, use them (with 20% quality ofc), if not, try to get the gem on it's maximum status (normally is 21 lvl/23 quality, there are exceptions tho (always check the wiki for that)). There's really useful vendor recipes regarding this matter (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vendor_recipe_system look for gemcutter's prism), you should learn them also! (EP: 15c - Dozens of Ex)
    7. Fix your tree - Sounds simple, but it isn't, you (or the creator of the build you're following) can make mistakes about stuff on your tree (not using a certain jewel, taking sub-optimal paths, taking worse notables when there's better one available, ...) and that's normal, always give a second though on your tree, look at other peoples trees that are also doing your build, use the Node Power function of PoB community (https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/releases) if you're feeling unsure on which of 2 notables you should take it, and so on. Also, don't forget to look for Thread of Hope/Intuitive Leap/Timeless jewels spots and watcher's eye/cluster jewels mods to further get your build better. (EP: ... regret orb price times ... the ammount of mistakes + extra jewels price)
    8. Enchants - There's three clear paths that you can take to get each of your enchants on your gear: 1. Simply dont get it, in exceptions of certain chase helmet enchants, the enchants aren't really thaat good, even tho they are a min-max. 2. Buy the enchanted item, as easy as that, be adviced that certain enchanted items are really expensive. 3. Farming Uber lab, the most time consuming way, boots and gloves enchant are really possible to get through pure grind, but for the helmet enchant you should keep anything that helps your build because since there are so many possible enchants that getting exactly is really unlikely. (You could also argue that you can use enchanted fossil to get the enchant that you want, but those are only valuable for crafting helmets, not for min-maxing new players builds) (EP: Not really sure here, but at least 100c per enchant seems like a good price)
    9. Perfect the implicts of your items - This one is a freebie, just buy and use lots of blesseds orbs on each and every of your items that have implicts. Blessed orb are cheap, and the perfect roll isn't that rare to get using them. (EP: ~5c per perfect item)
    10. Perfect the explicts of your items - This one is expensive AF, starting from the next league (since we're losing harvest until they rebalance it) the only way to perfect the explicts on your items are through Divine Orbs (18c each currently) and they are really random, making the process of "Divining" your items really expensive. Usually, buying the item already at good rolls is way cheaper them trying to divine it yourself. (EP: At least 1ex per item if you resort to get the good rolls by hand)
    11. Corrupting - By far, the most expensive min-max, the real good stuff of corrupting item is changing the implicts, since there are really good implicts available for each item type, the main problem being that you can destroy the original item by corrupting, losing a lot of currency. (EP: At least 10 times more that the regular price of the item)
    12. Utility gem setups - There are certain gem setups that can really enhance your build, and getting them right is a crucial step to raising your builds power. Some of them are: CWDT setups (https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/66a2h4/list_of_useful_cwdt_setups_did_i_miss_any/), Guard skill on Left click button, Warcry on left click button, vaal auras (only the vaal part, no mana reservation needed), Fortify support on a attack travel skill, Ancestral warchief on melee builds, Wither Totem on Chaos DOT builds, etc... (EP: cheap, just sockets re-linking and re-colouring)
    13. Fix you goddamn flasks - Those things save lifes, get you freeze immunity, bleed immunity (this also removes corrupted blood), and other relevant immunities for your builds. You can always add immunites through beastcrafting if the target flask only has a prefix and no suffix (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Beastcrafting). (EP: cheap, just do it)
    14. Pantheon - Look, the patheon effects are good, you should pick the right major and minor gods (if you are uncertain, or the build you're following does not have a section about pantheon, i recommend using Brine king + Gruthkul on earlier maps, once you reach high tier stuff you should switch Brine King for either Lunaris or Solaris depending on your build), get 4 divine vessels, then search on the wiki where each of the bosses you should kill are (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Pantheon), and go capture them! (EP: 10c?)

    If you know of any other universal min-max that i'm missing or something that i got wrong,please leave a comment and i will be adding it to the list soon.Ah, and sorry for any Typos that i may have left behind, feel free to comment about those and i'll fix them too.

    Thank you!

    EDIT 1:Typos and Rephrasing

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    My guess about 3.12. This will define if I must keep working as a researcher or not.

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 11:05 AM PDT

    Some people liked my investigation about the next expasion, so I decided to create a post about it and improve it. Whether it proves to be true or not, it was funny spending something around three hours doing this research. Hope you also like it. :)

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    Bex said that they were living a "full circle" when showing a journalist, that has seen PoE 10 years ago, the newest expansion.

    Full circle = back to the beginning.

    PoE's login screen back in 2009 was a boat (you can see it here, posted by Chris).

    The last map/town in PoE is "Karui shores".

    Also, a "full circle" is an "O". Ouroboros is a symbol that expresses an idea of going back to the beginning and creating a new life from the death of the past.

    "Friendship", in Bex clue, could relate to the Black Crest, Weylam Roth's (friend) ship.

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    Edit 1: Maybe we are finally following Innocence in his exile?

    He says, after we get to Oriath:)

    "But until that day I will remain in the furthest south, in a place of ice and ash, of blistering seas and abysmal storms. I shall meditate on my wrong doings, until a way of making amends to the millions of lives I have murdered and ruined, reveals itself to me."

    Innocence is also a friend "we made along the way", since... we'll, we murdered him and then asked for his help.

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    Edit 2: We give the map to Tsoatha to Lilly Roth, Weylam's granddaughter.

    Lilly says, about Tsoatha, in Act 10:

    "Well, the Brine King, as you know was forced into a slumber 'neath the ocean, and the city was said to have joined him there as well. A few folk managed to flee from the collapsing coral shards, start new lives for themselves, but I'll be reckoning they left all their valuables behind. "

    I went back to look at the Quest "Map the Tsoatha".

    About it, Lilly says:

    "Now that the Brine King is nothing but crab meat, his sunken domain, the ancient city of Tsoatha, is ripe for the plundering*.*

    Me grandaddy once dedicated a good portion of his sailing life, trying ta hunt down the location of that monolithic city. [...] I were this close to completing me grandfather's legacy, when those damn Templar privateers raided me ship and took off with the The Teardrop, threw it in their Reliquary, here in Theopolis. As it were, now's the perfect time to retrieve that dazzling pearl. [...]"

    After you found and delivered the Map:

    "We'll stick around a while longer, but once things settle down, my grandfather and I, we'll be setting sail with Tsoatha firm in our sights."

    Some guys tried to translate the inscription on the Teardrop. It could maybe be translated into "sleeping, I await at the brink of madness for Tsoatha's Revival" or "sleeping, I await at the brink of madness. Tsoatha's death yet calls".

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    Edit 3: One of the monsters in the Brine King's Reef is the Brine Vassal.

    According to that page, the Brine Vassal is categorized, by the Bestiary, into the Family "The Deep".

    When you look at which cards drop on The Brine King's Reef, you have the following results: Lantador's Lost Love, The Siren, Scholar of the Seas and, the most important, The Deep Ones.

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    The Siren text: "At the beck and call / of The Siren's hand, / winter ravages / the trembling land, / and the weight of ice that binds / will break the strongest of minds"

    Innocence said that he'd go to "a place of ice and ash".

    ​

    Scholar of the Seas text: "I've never come upon a ship I could not command. I have however met sailors that were not willing to be led".

    The set of this card generates the Unique Map Mao Kun, which text is: "The Treasures of the Tides wait in agony at the End of the World". Tsoatha could be considered the End of the World since it's a submerged city. Also, Innocence kinda said that he was going to go to the end of the world.

    ​

    The Deep Ones text: "The Seas Call, the Mad Answer".

    It seems pretty close to the inscription found on the Teardrop: Tsoatha calls, the mad answer.

    The set of this card generates the Unique Maul Tidebreaker. Its text says: "The sea strikes the rock relentlessly. Whether in one day or in ten thousand years, eventually the rock will crumble, and the Brine King's domain will grow".

    The "Brine King's domain" is Tsoatha.

    Only in the Reef Map ("map version" of the Brine King's Reef) you can drop The Formless Sea card. It says: "Formless might, / Wild beauty tamed, / The brine of gods, / The seas restrained". It generates the Varunastra, which is a Vaal weapon.

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    Edit 4: When we search about the end of the Vaal civilization, we find the following:

    "The Vaal civilization seems to have ended as the result of some internal event rather than external conquest. This event may be the mysterious "communion" the Vaal were seeking before their demise according to Icius Perandus as is written in one of the Golden Pages: "A communion... but with what? By all accounts, it wasn't God that the Vaal were trying to reach." Said communion took place during the harvest moon, and Doryani was at the heart of this event. Both Atziri and Doryani died in the cataclysm, as did many others. Some people also "changed" (possibly a reference to the Vaal Fallen found in the Pyramid?). On the Golden Page (Siosa's translation, not the flavour text) that mentions this, the words "sleep", "nightmare" and "the Beast" are also mentioned, and that the Vaal have "failed" themselves. This probably means that the Beast played an important role in the cataclysm."

    The "sleep" thing appears in the Map to Tsoatha inscription. Also, the "communion" must also have driven them mad and cursed, since until the present days the Vaal guard their riches.

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    Edit 5: This guy search for "the real treasure was the friendships we made along the way".

    It is a phrase from the book "The House in the Cerulean Sea".

    The name of this book remembered me of the Cerulean Ring, which also drops from the Reef Map.

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    Edit 6: AND, IF I AM RIGHT, THIS IS WHERE SHIT GETS CRAZY.

    I search for the "Deep" family in the Bestiary. The Deep are divided in Cephalopods, Crustaceans and Amphibians.

    Description of The Deep: "The uncharted depths of chaos and control. What scaled abominations lurk below?"

    Description of the Crustaceans: "Some say the crustacean is born from the souls of dead men. Those warriors who fought and fell. For the crab is formed with its armour intact, its sword becomes its pincers and its shield becomes its skin."

    Description of the Amphibians: "Creatures of mud and swamp, the amphibian is a foul smelling thing. Beware his uncanny talents to breathe both above and below, for with this trick, he will lure his prey and let it sink into the deathly grip of a murky mire."

    And the most important one:

    Description of the Cephalopods: "Nightmares sprung forth from the tentacular void. And eldritch hatred emanates from various appendages, and the suctioning grip of their callous embrace will pull a man further into the unholy depths."

    Does it sound familiar, Exile?

    Yep. The Elder probably is one of The Deep - that's why he has all those tentacles. Like it could be seen during the fights against the Elder and his army, he is a force of chaos and decay. Exactly by that reason his arena was called Absence of Value and Meaning, where we can also see Madness propagators. Remember: "the sea calls, the mad answer".

    You can read on the Watcher's Eye: "One by one, they stood their ground against a creature they had no hope of understanding, let alone defeating, and one by one, they became a part of it".

    Every fallen creature became a part of that decaying world, a world that created The Elder.

    The Shaper realized which risks the Elder presented. Probably, The Elder was just the beginning of something much more menacing, a kingdom of void and decay. But The Shaper also ended up being consumed by that force, driven mad by the horrors he had seen. That's why, if you take a closer look, he has tentacles and not hair. Part human, part cephalopod, The Shaper tried to resist the madness of The Deep Ones, but it was too late for him.

    If I am right in my lead... Is it too late for us?

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    Edit 7: I've decided to search the Bestiary again. Then, the Craiceann, First of the Deep caught my attention.

    Craiceann Carapace: "The First of the Deep was the First of All. It was He who conquered the waves, who stood guard as land rose from sea."

    Craiceann's Chitin: "When the rains come, we cower beneath shelter. The First of the Deep teaches us that we should seek no shelter but ourselves."

    Craiceann's Pincers: "The stone that stays in the waves soon crumbles to sand. The First of the Deep teaches us to watch the tides and choose our moments to move wisely."

    Craiceann's Tracks: "When the land rose above the sea, The First of the Deep did not move.When the sky turned to fire, The First of the Deep did not perish. We must remember our place, and play to our strengths."

    According to the Crustaceans lore (Edit 6 above), "the crab is formed with its armour intact, its sword becomes its pincers and its shield becomes its skin". If so, the Craiceann's armour is the armour of the first of The Deep Ones.

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    I just hope this league will actually have incentive to play with friends.

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 02:05 AM PDT

    My only gripe with PoE has been that you really don't benefit from playing with friends. There is no point and in a way it hinders progress even. It would be nice to have a league where playing with friends actually has a point and can make you both progress.

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    Delve but with friendships

    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 03:24 PM PDT

    Preview of Upcoming Supporter Packs

    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 04:41 PM PDT

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