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    Path of Exile Questions Thread - October 30, 2020

    Questions Thread - October 30, 2020

    Posted: 29 Oct 2020 05:07 PM PDT

    Questions Thread - October 30, 2020

    This is a general question thread on October 30, 2020. You can find the previous question threads here.

    Remember to check the Wiki first.

    You can also ask questions in the #any-question channel in our official Discord.

    The idea is for anyone to be able to ask anything related to PoE:

    • New player questions
    • Mechanics
    • Build Advice
    • League related questions
    • Trading
    • Endgame
    • Price checks
    • Etc.

    No question is too big or too small!

    We encourage experienced players to sort this thread by new. We'd like to thank those who answered questions in the last thread! You guys are the best.

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    Our Reasoning Behind the 3.13 Launch Delay

    Posted: 29 Oct 2020 05:17 PM PDT

    Yesterday we announced that we are delaying the release of 3.13 from December to January. While many players were supportive, some were disappointed and confused. We are also very disappointed in this outcome, but we see it as the only viable option. This post explains more detail about the process that led to this decision.

    While I try to write candidly, I don't normally talk about every motivation that we have when making decisions. I feel that this is a case where it's important that we lift the curtain a bit and explain all the factors that influenced this.

    Action RPGs are all about finding items, levelling up characters and accomplishing difficult challenges, all while comparing your progress to your friends and feeling that you found better stuff earlier than they did. The most exciting time for this is right after the launch of a new league, because it comes with a fresh economy to play in. Players arrange time off work, queue to log in right as the league opens, and then push really hard to get established in the league before other people can. The first days or weeks of a new league are by far the most exciting time for players, and this is reflected in our metrics that track player engagement. There is a massive spike at the start of a league, which gradually drifts down over the 13 weeks before it spikes up again for the next one. We have designed our entire business model around this, by doing our content releases at league launch, our marketing at league launch, releasing our mystery boxes, supporter packs and new microtransactions at league launch, etc. It's incredibly critical that league launches go as well as possible. This is also why we have our launches on Friday afternoon/evening (depending on whether you're in America or Europe) - to maximise weekend time available for players' first push.

    So what impact do other games have on this? So far we have historically been really lucky to almost always avoid directly clashing with the release of other major games. However, in late 2019, we released the Blight league less than two weeks after WoW Classic's launch. This had a massively negative impact on player numbers, play hours, Twitch views and revenue. It was a bit of a disaster, and quite a big learning experience for us. The truth is, for a lot of players, if they miss the initial launch of a league, they'll probably skip it or not take it anywhere near as seriously as if they managed to make good progress and get established in the early days or weeks. It's vitally important to have a clean release. As a side note, this is why we also have a lot of implicit motivation to make sure our releases are as stable and bug-free as possible. Bad launches have very large ripple effects that could threaten our ability to sustain the game.

    Cyberpunk 2077 is a massive game. A lot of people are going to play it, and they're probably going to play it pretty hard. By looking at the stats from services like Steam, you can see the player engagement curves for large releases like this, and it's easy to see that there will likely be several weeks of absolute dominance while everyone enjoys it. I understand that you may feel that you can run through a single player game in a weekend, but realistically gamers as a whole are going to be very occupied for at least a few weeks.

    Prior to yesterday's announcement, we were somewhat comfortable with the relative timing between Cyberpunk's previous release date and our target date for 3.13. There was a three-week gap, which was closer than we'd like but probably enough time to not existentially threaten 3.13's release.

    They then announced a delay of their release to within 24 hours of our launch. I understand that if you don't plan to play Cyberpunk, you may feel that it's an overreaction for us to want to move out of its way. I am deeply sorry about the inconvenience and disappointment. But the commercial reality is that if we kept our original release date, we would be fucked. We believe we'd lose at least half our players, almost all of our streamers, a chunk of our developers, and we honestly wouldn't blame them. Launching at the same time as a game of that size is not feasible.

    Okay, so can we launch earlier in December? Well, not really. As we mentioned last week, 3.13 has been scoped carefully to avoid development crunch and quality issues at launch. Trying to finish it faster would reintroduce both problems. Also, how many weeks early would we have to launch in order to actually avoid getting trampled by Cyberpunk's release? So releasing early is by far the hardest option.

    Alright, but what about later in December? So this issue here is Christmas. In New Zealand, it's summer in December, and Christmas is typically when people take their annual leave to spend time with their families and friends in the sun. It's very common for some companies to work 11 months of the year and have all their time off in late December/early January. While we encourage our staff to take breaks throughout the year, there's certainly a strong bias towards people choosing to be away in late December, and that's not something that I am going to ask them to give up.

    Launching one week later than we planned, on December 18, means that almost all of our staff would be away immediately after launch, preventing us from fixing post-release problems, doing the console launches, supporting Garena/Tencent for their launches, etc. In addition, one week doesn't really get out of the time window where a lot of people will be playing Cyberpunk. We also can't launch on December 25 or January 1 for obvious reasons.

    So that leaves January 8 or January 15 as valid launch dates (as explained before, hitting a weekend is critical for the launch to go well). A lot more team members are back by the 15th, so that is the date we are likely to announce. I want to say to my team: "You guys had a difficult year. Go have a great vacation, come back recharged, and we'll launch a product we're confident in". To me, this is possibly as important a reason as trying to avoid having our numbers crushed by another game. It's a very hard call to make, to delay a release by this much, as it's a huge revenue/schedule hit. In this case the delay being essentially forced upon us does mean that we get some other benefits.

    We usually waste a lot of time each cycle preparing marketing materials from a less-than-half-finished build of the expansion, as they have to constantly be updated as the expansion changes. With this schedule, we can make the expansion good first, then prepare its marketing/announcement. It also gives us a month more time for quality assurance, and probably means that we can actually use our Alpha realm for its intended purpose. Alpha testers aren't allowed to talk about what they see on Alpha, but the state of the game at that point is usually a bit of a shitshow. I think we only managed to get one actual league up and playable this year before its release. That will change if we have this extra month between completion of the expansion and its release.

    For the other 50% of Path of Exile players who read all of the above and are still sad that 3.13 isn't coming out in December, we are trying very hard to prepare interesting events for everyone to play. I'd much rather try to underpromise and overdeliver here, but we are kicking around some ideas. Bex is campaigning very hard for us to work out how to do Endless Delve, for example.

    I'm really sorry that this decision has disappointed loyal Path of Exile fans who are excited to see what we've been working on for our next end-game expansion and were looking forward to spending their holidays playing it. While I feel that we picked the best of several bad outcomes. While I have been mentally feeling a lot better after committing to this decision yesterday, I still can't get over the thought that we have let you guys down. I promise that we will work hard to make sure there's plenty of fun PoE stuff going on over the holidays, followed by a kickass expansion.

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    I just saw a "pet" in a сhinese client. This is literally a different quality.. It looks like a mockery

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 12:04 AM PDT

    I'm too poor to join the movement so I deleted 970 scrolls in one click instead. No need to thank me.

    Posted: 29 Oct 2020 11:05 PM PDT

    I suppose I've become the NPC that follows the exile

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 06:55 AM PDT

    A8 Sirus kill with Default Attack

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 10:43 AM PDT

    Can we talk about Tailoring/Tempering orbs?

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 08:36 AM PDT

    Why are they so damn rare? Really, what's the reasoning behind this?

    I'm not a fraction wizard, but say you're going for an enchant type on your wep/armor. You have a 16/181 (reduces to about 1/11.3) chance in getting an enchant that affects a modifier you want, like fire for example. THEN, about 6 of those 16 of those possible enchants of the 16 are going to brick your item, because it will make you item unable to have a specific socket color, or ONLY have a specific socket color. It's rare that anyone would want this on an item. So that's more like 10/181 chance of getting a mod you can use (now the chances are 1/18.1).

    Additionally, there are 2 very prohibitive enchants you might get that I haven't counted in the 16. The one that increases attribute requirements of the item by 200% (or effectively 3 times) and the one that reduces the max number of sockets on the items by 3 (literally no one would ever trade 3 sockets for a 15% item mod increase, outside of perhaps rolling this enchant on an offhand with +%quality to gems for meta trio levelling. Even then, for the cost of rolling this? No way).

    This is all well and good. What makes no sense is the rarity of tailoring/tempering orbs. They're actually so rare that you only see like 20 listed at a time, and they cost 200-400c/3-5ex. Let's say you do get an enchant you want/can use in 18 tries. That's 54-90ex. That's already insane for a pittiful 6-10% increase in mod effect on a weapon/armor.

    But we all know RNG is RNG, so it will most likely be way more than 18 tries, and way more than 54-90ex of cost for a tiny bump up in numbers. What the hell is the point? These are effectively WORSE than Labyrinth enchants, because they take way more opportunity cost just to get a roll, AND they're weaker than Labyrinth enchants by a long shot, and actually run the risk of soft-bricking your item so you'll have to buy another orb to roll again before you can use your item again.

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    T15 100% Meme Tornado Build

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 12:38 PM PDT

    When you spend more than 10 seconds in your Hideout

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 02:06 PM PDT

    I Made A Heist Cat (Hana) Felt Keychain

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 01:23 AM PDT

    What happened to turn exalt prices around?

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 07:26 AM PDT

    There was a lot of discussion of factors pushing exalt prices down, including delerium zana, bot bans, and regal->exalt trinket.

    But what's going on with the prices now? I haven't played for a short while and prices tripled!

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    My hubby gave me a cursed sword, with infinite clinks.... and blood rage won't stop leveling up to 8

    Posted: 29 Oct 2020 10:46 PM PDT

    Hideout - Oogie boogie. download

    Posted: 29 Oct 2020 11:30 PM PDT

    Exalt prices this season are something

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 01:11 PM PDT

    Finally 3.12.4c solved my everlasting issue of crashes during heists

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 03:18 AM PDT

    Never played RF before thought I might try my luck and got this in three tries.

    Posted: 29 Oct 2020 10:24 PM PDT

    Quin69 RIPs in his ethical league - "A8 or Die Trying"

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 02:05 PM PDT

    Quin69 Ethical League ethical mirror

    Posted: 29 Oct 2020 06:23 PM PDT

    I did a thing!

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 02:01 AM PDT

    [AMA Announcement] DS_Lily!

    Posted: 29 Oct 2020 10:34 PM PDT

    The AMA Series Continues!

    DS_Lily is joining me for an AMA! Come check her out and feel free to ask why she sleeps so little!

    It will be live on my stream www.twitch.tv/zizaran countdown can be found here: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20201031T17&p0=919&font=cursive

    You can also ask questions in this thread and we will start off the AMA with them then move onto live questions from chat! Hope to see you there!

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    Can we address cluster jewel crafting problems?

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 12:33 AM PDT

    Devs said they nerfed it because harvest made it too easy to craft (which in my opinion is not true if you went for the actually good rolls). Harvest is gone and clusters are in a spot where getting a good large needs insane amount of investment. The build enabling nature of clusters makes their hard to craft state unreasonable, at least for me. You cant league start or budget build a character that relies on clusters, if getting the nodes requires thousands of chaoses spammed.
    Also, there is no middle ground on these jewels. You either get what you want for tons of currency or go with thr standard passive tree, because mediocre clusters suck most of the time

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    Where does the Arboreal Hideout entrance spawn?

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 10:37 AM PDT

    Trying to farm the ho on standard, i was wondering where the entrance to the "clear all mobs" zone is. Should i be skipping the little end area before the steps to the "mini area" before the boss arena, dont know if anybody knows what i mean by that.

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    *Edit*: Ended up finding the hideout clear zone entrance at the dead end, before the stairs.

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    Does bow range actually do something?

    Posted: 29 Oct 2020 08:21 PM PDT

    Spooky hideout - Melancholic Mansion

    Posted: 30 Oct 2020 01:17 PM PDT
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