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    Path of Exile Builds Cautionary Tale: Fyregrass's poison TS occultist

    Path of Exile Builds Cautionary Tale: Fyregrass's poison TS occultist


    Cautionary Tale: Fyregrass's poison TS occultist

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 12:11 AM PDT

    If you are considering doing a league start as this build as its been getting a lot of hype especially here please consider that when fyre says that the build is slow to start he is not giving it justice and is borderline being disingenuous with how bad the skill is. You level with fire skills the entire time while being forced to take poison and bow nodes so your character gets progressively weaker and weaker, and once I transitioned at level 57 with a quill rain, a broadhead quiver with t2 phys and gloves with t2 phys it was the worst build experience I've had in 6 years playing the game. Sadly was looking forward to u/Fyregrass as a new and promising content creator on the scene as many of his videos have been high quality but he's selling snake oil with this one which has lead to extreme doubt of anything he puts out coming forward. Perhaps the build does get strong at some point once you get into white maps but the fact that he himself glossed over how bad it is pre certain breakpoints is a huge disservice to anyone he baited into league starting this.

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    'Colossal Tower Shield' Nerfs - What it means for Shield Crush

    Posted: 22 Oct 2021 08:55 PM PDT

    TL;DR - Yes, Shield Crush got hit quite a bit (looks like an extra 10-15%). No, the build is not dead or bad. It is still a good starter but lost some endgame scaling (AL8+ Sirus, Maven, ETC). It will need testing for other options.


    It appears that GGG has ended up nerfing Colossal Tower Shield, which can be seen here on poedb.tw. This was an undocumented change and I was not aware of these changes until very recently. It hurts the build, but I will work around it as soon as I can to ensure nobody who uses my build wastes their time.

    I haven't updated my forum post as of yet (since it will take me longer to make proper adjustments and rewrite sections over band-aid tweaks), but below I have posted two different PoBs of my Versatile Combatant Impale Shield Crush Gladiator build. Below is both a Gladiator and a Champion variant, and Champion appears to be better since we still don't know how good Violent Retaliation really is.

    My forum post will be updated in the next 1 or 2 days in order to reflect these changes properly, and a post similar to this will be posted on the forum thread.


    You can find my forum guide here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3148278/page/1

    You can find the updated Gladiator Variant here: https://pastebin.com/26GZY5Ys

    You can find the new and upcoming Champion Variant here: https://pastebin.com/N5JL52CB


    I do not have extensive details written down yet on the Champion Variant, but some notable details as to why we have higher damage is because we are able to drop Impale Support in the Shield Crush 6L for Close Combat. That along with the impale node on Champion is where most of the damage bonus comes from.

    If you have any other questions, comments, or concerns about my build, please feel free to comment on the forum or send me a message/chat here on reddit.

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    What builds are looking good?

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 01:37 AM PDT

    I started with Frye's Poison TS occultist, And I'm straight up having no fun.

    I'm looking for something self-cast/trigger/attack

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    Now that we've seen how crazy Scourge can get, what builds do we think will be the best for it?

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 01:18 AM PDT

    Looks like some top-tier builds are needed with how much defense and dps is needed to clear multiple full bars each map. Any ideas or experience so far?

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    Path of Exile 3.16 Scourge build compilation, with notes

    Posted: 22 Oct 2021 09:04 AM PDT

    DISCLAIMER:

    I am not a top PoE player. My notes are mostly parroting top streamers and builders, but I may have gotten things wrong.

    If I've gotten something wrong, please yell at me.

    Thanks. - Cane

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    Path of Exile: Scourge Builds compilation

    I have compiled a large list of builds, with links, PoBs, etc. I thought I'd share it here. Maybe someone will find it useful.

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    TOXIC RAIN

    This is the build everyone thinks is good this league. Champion is the hardcore favorite, while Raider will shine in softcore.

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    • Quantrik's Toxic Rain Raider •

    PoB: Quantrik Trade League: https://pastebin.com/zcCxsgW0

    PoB: gadam93's SSF Version: https://pastebin.com/01v6Hn4H

    The Raider version has better clear speed, but is more frail. This is the softcore pick, and it achieves good damage with budget gear. Quantrik's build is all the rage at the moment, while gadam93 made a personal SSF version.

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    • Lightee7's Toxic Rain Champion •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/YgAscx7X

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nNguBo4JjQ

    This is Lightee7's current high-armor tank, specifically made for hardcore: lower clear speeds, but it's just not going to die. The PoB is great and has good leveling trees, and Ziz's YouTube video is fantastic as always.

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    Other Versions

    • Asmodeus' Champion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1oKC16ddU

    • Seberus' Raider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6CqHo7v5GQ

    How to craft the bow you need: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q40bblpomPk


    CHAOS DOT - ED/BANE/CONTAGION

    ED/Contagion is probably going to be great this league, and it'll play well with the league mechanic. Bane is always a popular alternative.

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    • Zizaran's ED/Contagion Trickster Leaguestarter •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/E27xXd0T

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu3CxWrgQ_Y

    Zizaran is sticking with Trickster here, which traditionally has been the best and most obvious choice, but people have theorized that Occultist may be stronger this league. Ziz's build still looks very strong though, and is probably the best presented.

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    • Subtractem's Bane Occultist •

    PoB: Final-ish tree: https://pastebin.com/6LxuSps5

    PoB: Leveling guide: https://pastebin.com/nNZPVUQj

    YouTube: Build overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B1MtEQyU2k

    YouTube: Leveling guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uWYEK2TlbQ

    Subtractem swears by this build as a starter, and a lot of people believe him. It looks really strong.

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    • Ghazzy's Chaos DoT Occultist •

    PoB: Low budget: https://pastebin.com/4NMG77XY

    Guide: https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/chaos-dot-occultist-build-guide

    Not a very good PoB (no leveling tree, skills not bound to items, he's too busy updating 48 other subpar guides lmao gottem), but Ghazzy's Chaos DoT has always been a strong and popular standout.

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    Lahkesis, Queen of Chaos

    https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1963181

    This is an annoying and confusing guide without up-to-date leveling PoBs, but the author said he's hoping to get it updated soon™.

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    Havoc's ED/Contagion Low Life Occultist

    https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3187314

    Havoc made a fairly popular Trickster build, but his Occultist build has issues (read page 2). Adding it here in case he fixes some of it going forward.


    EYE OF WINTER

    People love EoW as it's just fun to use. Hydrosphere and EoW combine to make for a fun effect.

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    • Path of Matth's Eye of Winter Saboteur •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/z2daFKjE

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAWdJhHwqAc

    Most people don't like miners as much because it makes them stand still for a while, but they're just so powerful. A Saboteur with High Impact Mine makes this a breeze.

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    • jungroan's Eye of Winter Inquisitor •

    PoB: Spellslinger (weaker): https://pastebin.com/GVPmngpS

    PoB: Blastchain Mine (stronger): https://pastebin.com/aG9yLECT

    YouTube: Spellslinger version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lFY6CORJnw

    YouTube: Miner version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDh9cuTt9tU

    jungroan thinks the miner (Blastchain Mine) version is better, but people wanted to see a Slinger version so he made one. Either would be fine until late red maps, and jung himself is possibly using the miner as a league starter.


    MINIONS

    Summoners are always viable in some form or another, and I always make at least one per league. The gameplay style isn't for everyone, but it's most definitely for me.

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    • Kay's Minion Army Necromancer •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/sT5vZeAe

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taj0yghh95U

    Thread: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3179145

    Kay is the most popular minion master, and her guides (and PoBs) are always gold. This is the league starter version intended to get you up to yellow maps, but once you have some currency and items, you should transition into your preferred variant.

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    • Ghazzy's Spectre Necromancer •

    PoB: Low budget: https://pastebin.com/rc1WX1E3

    PoB: Medium budget: https://pastebin.com/8DmJSfGY

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCrq3hVSC-M

    Ghazzy just updated this one so I haven't had time to look, but have fun with the clickbait YouTube video.


    VOLATILE DEAD / DETONATE DEAD

    VD is such an interesting spell. You can precast ahead of bosses, hide behind walls, and just let your homing orbs speak for themselves. It also ruins your framerate unless you literally buy an MTX to change the look of the VD orbs.

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    • Ruetoo's VDDD Spellslinger Assassin •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/azcQ3Yp1

    Build guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_tcxAaozJo77twb4w8EzHD5D3IIboKXXtqLjFF1gW-8/edit

    Leveling guide (old): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1meZu8JQYZtJlkZTIo-UuW7A-BX2WKcLwkJrcQIUKweA/edit

    Leveling overview VOD: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1182212726?t=00h57m52s

    This is my tentative personal favorite, and I'm very tempted to play it this season.

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    • jungroan's VDDD Spellslinger Inquisitor •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/Qe0Qu4jC

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTSrxWnueM4

    jungroan's Inquisitor has a lot of recovery, and he still somehow manages to pump his damage numbers to respectable levels. The Assassin has more damage, however, and Ruetoo says it'll scale a lot better in the endgame.

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    • Ruetoo's VDDD Armabrand Spellslinger Necromancer •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/JrRACusq

    The Necro version is weaker (lack of damage is its biggest killer), but it's more survivable and better for hardcore. It's also easier to level, as you just follow the tree.

    Bonus clip:

    https://www.twitch.tv/ruetoo/clip/BloodySlickPistachioRalpherZ-iD_Q8LyKwYioVGxT


    EXSANGUINATE / REAP

    Exsang/Reap Phys DoT is a strong contender. It stacks physical damage over time, and can proliferate it in AoE using various skills. Very popular with Spellslingers.

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    • jungroan's Scion Bloodslinger for SSFHC •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/SVa9Fyns

    Low damage but fantastic map clear, Atlas clear, and currency farm. jungroan has league started with this before, with good success.

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    • Ruetoo's Scion Exsang Reap Phys Dot •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/FbV9qWCZ

    Ruetoo made a bunch of builds this league, all very viable, though he does say this one is "less cost efficient" than the rest--but still good. Higher damage than the Spellslinger variant.

    Example exsanguinate gameplay from Ziz a few leagues ago:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LffwjnM1ra4&t=118s


    OTHER FUN BUILDS

    • Ghazzy's Dark Pact Necromancer •

    PoB: Budget gear: https://pastebin.com/B8rQ3xsm

    Guide thread: https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/dark-pact-necromancer-build-guide

    Guide video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cETYCLVawyA

    A very unique build, targeting your own Summon Skeletons with Dark Pact to deal damage, and using Trigger wands with Convocation/Desecrate/Bone Offering and the like. It looks great this league, and Ghazzy said he'll league start with it to make sure it lives up to the hype.

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    • Ruetoo's Armageddon Brand Assassin •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/g9k6mg08

    YouTube: Gameplay example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j30MEp88cdk&t=247s

    This is Ruetoo's probable league starter. It offers tons of damage and lights whole screens on fire. What's not to love.

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    • jungroan's Storm Brand Spellslinger Inquisitor •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/z0KD3qDJ

    YouTube: Quick overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg9DfgwN_8s

    YouTube: Gameplay example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGX1Lqx_jyE&t=862s

    Twitch: Mapping example: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1182843118

    Ruetoo doesn't think Storm Brand is league starter viable, but jungroan is a god who made this work in the last league when Spellslinger was worse. I'm going with jungroan on this one.

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    • ShakCentral's Cold DoT For Everyone •

    PoB: SSF/HC: https://pastebin.com/RwK8C3wa

    PoB: SC/Trade: https://pastebin.com/0dnMBAmw

    Thread: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2661120

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6BGE8jnhf0

    Cold damage is useful for crowd control, and this is one of the strongest. People have loved it as a league starter in the past because it can do almost everything, and with minimal effort.

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    • Nugiyen's Poisonous Concoction Pathfinder OR Occultist •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/E4RQLHQ9

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AdlErLh5cU

    This is a new skill which are always risky as we don't know how it'll play out yet, but Nugiyen will be league starting with this and he's one of the better and more prolific builders in the game. As Ziz says in the video, Nugiyen will likely fix any issues with the build that come up, and you can re-spec this into Toxic Rain if things go wrong. It's an interesting choice.

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    • Fuzzy Duckzy's Lightning Strike Raider •

    PoB: https://pastebin.com/56vdg0gQ

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qsgkDwuoFM

    Thread: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3186978

    Melee builds aren't for everyone, but I really liked this one. Lightning Strike builds tend to be fast-paced and fun, but a little annoying to level and very item-dependant for scaling the damage. In my experience, it's very subpar until you get a good claw.


    OTHER LINKS

    jungroan's builds, most of these are viable (but read the notes):

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XK8Hv7gxyUvPJ9DQGJeuc4ksK1mWzc6unOYmDu5NSQU/edit#gid=0

    Ruetoo's builds, all of these are viable:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D97vtwE2r2DX8ajWH9oOjsf6hObskLB7mjM0ihLrV8w/edit#gid=0

    Crouching Tuna's BIG community list of good builds

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRbgryH5f28SYRIAIy7AKb9V8KKmYgp7MoCWWHQtWmEZOe5Duhrmf_VUvb04arYWBwTOG_30vBd_I8Q/pubhtml

    And finally, here are some quotes from Lightee7 who made the Champion TR build: IF YOU ARE SOFTCORE, USE RAIDER, NOT CHAMPION!

    https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/qc1chz/regarding_darkees_21_radius_toxic_rain_overlap/hhdf79n/

    https://clips.twitch.tv/TubularCoySushiOMGScoots-jM_tDUaXRrmOcaaU

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    How's the new flame surge?

    Posted: 22 Oct 2021 09:04 PM PDT

    You notice the damage increase for ignite builds? Aoe decent? Can u scale the duration? Playing tomorrow and was curious

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    Energy Blade Gladiator - using counterattacks to leverage base dmg

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 01:07 AM PDT

    Hi guys, I like to make my own builds and I think I've put together something interesting, curious to know what you all think.

    It seems like the biggest problem with EB is that the numbers are not high enough to justify giving up a weapon and large part of your ES. EB does stand out in that it provides us with a weapon with a very large amount of base damage. I'm attempting to take advantage of the big base damage by including as many base damage ratios as possible. This is achieved by using all three of Vengeance, Reckoning, and Riposte.

    (https://pastebin.com/kv6yXDuK)

    I've taken gladiator ascendancy, then stacked as much ES as possible. New determination puts armour at a respectable level. Divine shield synergizes well with EB in general. Block and spell block are high as well.

    Any ways for me to improve this build? I am not an experienced player (T10 is farthest I've gotten) but I was hoping this build might take me into endgame this league.

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    How did you starter turn out ?

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 02:22 AM PDT

    Rant about your league starter here

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    How to salvage a DP skeleton necro without releveling?

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 02:52 AM PDT

    I farmed some white maps with it and while I wouldnt mind its slower gameplay, it feels like garbage for the league mechanic that takes only few seconds and DP is a stationary self caster with double cast and delayed dmg on top of it. Any recomendations what could be good the scourge mechanic and also end game viable without changing the entire character?

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    Leveling into elemental hit?

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 02:01 AM PDT

    I know it is kinda terrible to start with ele hit, but I have a guilty pleasure for ele hit bow builds or generally for bow attack builds for some reason and always want to play it.

    Can someone advise how to level into e.g. this build below?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hPwqzAaljo&t=1648s

    I'm level 23 but not sure if my damage is bad because of monster hp buffs (I haven't played PoE for more than a year) or bow attack builds are just simply that bad? I really don't want to reroll... :)

    I'm using split arrow and pick similar nodes that would be later good for ele hit as well, until I can afford Xoph's blood or travel to Avatar of fire on the tree.

    Any advice is very much appreciated!

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    Transitioning from Kay’s summoner?

    Posted: 22 Oct 2021 11:49 PM PDT

    I'm looking to start with Kay's summoner but in the video she says it's mostly for getting up into yellow maps and then transition to something else. My question is, what do you transition too? I'm not a fan of rerolling and would like to just continue on same character.

    Do you just respec into any "stronger" summoner build?

    Anyone else here starting this and what is your plan to transition. I would like to be able to do all content long term.

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    Self Cast Dark Pact Necro is pretty fun

    Posted: 22 Oct 2021 11:21 PM PDT

    This isn't a guide, but if you've wanted a playstyle that is unique and powerful, I think this is it. Mind, this isn't the hiero totem version, which is much different.

    It's a build where (while leveling) you need skellies to be located where you need to inflict chaos damage. And if you can do that, it's a lot of chaos damage. More than anything else, I find it fun to play because it's so different from anything else I've played. Good starter too, recommended if you want something different.

    Pob isn't mine (I think Ghazzy?) But I've been following this. https://pastebin.com/bmUv9CC3

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    Rage Vortex Zerker

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 02:54 AM PDT

    I wanted to start a Rage Vortex Zerker as my league starter solo. But can't figure out which gem links to use and which skull to start with until i get Rage Vortex.

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    Do you have any build that see significant damage boost in 3.16?

    Posted: 22 Oct 2021 08:18 PM PDT

    Ideally a budget-friendly one.

    My impression is that GGG has taken roughly 15% of damage away from the passive tree in 3.16.

    All of my builds have less damage now, no matter how I adjust the trees.

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    Is there any endgame viable skill that can be cast while moving?

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 04:25 AM PDT

    I love a fluid playstyle where I can cast skills while moving or the skill itself is a movement skill.I already discovered Righteous Fire, Cyclone, Dark Pact and Bodyswap.Cyclone is a bit too slow for my taste and the other ones aren't really viable as a "main skill" right? I tried to reach 1kk DPS with them in PoB and it is impossible, even with top tier uniques. (Could be that I am just dumb but maybe you can help me)

    Is there any other skill that is viable as a main damage source that falls into the category?Thx :)

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    Burning arrow or fireball for an ignite elemental build?

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 04:01 AM PDT

    what will have more single target at the end too?

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    Poisonous Concoction Pathfinder - Zizaran and Nugiyen

    Posted: 22 Oct 2021 07:40 AM PDT

    VD/DD Spellslinger Inquisitor - Zizaran and Jungroan

    Posted: 22 Oct 2021 05:11 AM PDT

    Has anyone seen either a solid 3.16 Fireball or strength stacking build?

    Posted: 22 Oct 2021 09:09 PM PDT

    League starter ideal, but I'd be willing to play something else to unlock either build. I'm not interested in totems. I've yet to come across a viable Dex stacking build at all, and Int seems like Ice Storm which I'm uninterested in or very expensive wand builds.

    I see some thoughts floating around about Fireball with the ignite buffs, but no-one seems to have published a really solid build yet on it either.

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    Adder's Touch in Path of Building not working, can anyone help?

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 04:50 AM PDT

    Anyone skilled with path of building who can help me? I'm using "Adder's Touch" notable which gives "Critical Hits with daggers apply poison" but pob isnt registering any poison dmg with my build despite 75% crit chance. What can i do to fix this or to get a rough estimate of my poison dmg?

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    Ice shot or other ice build

    Posted: 22 Oct 2021 09:01 PM PDT

    Hi, I like range, I like chain or seeing many projectile moving fast, I like the Crack of iced monsters dying. So I was thinking ice shot deadeye or any build having above criterias Is there any build for me? I am noob so hard for me to do this build myself

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    Looking for cold build that freeze/explode monsters

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 04:28 AM PDT

    Hi playing after long time

    Looking for cold based looking for build that freeze or explode monsters.

    Very appreciate any cold build that is cause less strain to hands/fingers (less clicking).

    Thanks

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    How's bane going?

    Posted: 23 Oct 2021 03:56 AM PDT

    Didn't have much time to play last night but just hit 28 and switched to bane for my witch. Is it feeling good or do I need to spend my day looking at a new build to transition into when I get home.

    Hope everyone's league start went smoothly!

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    Which league starter you selected?

    Posted: 22 Oct 2021 07:13 AM PDT

    Found that some of the starters are more popular on reddit, discord and youtube, so I am interested in number of people lean towards them

    View Poll

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