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    Path of Exile Builds Quick N' Dirty CoC Forbidden Rite Guide to optimal stats

    Path of Exile Builds Quick N' Dirty CoC Forbidden Rite Guide to optimal stats


    Quick N' Dirty CoC Forbidden Rite Guide to optimal stats

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 02:26 PM PDT

    Quick N' Dirty CoC Forbidden Rite Guide to optimal stats

    Hello, I've seen a lot of folks trying to make a CoC FR and I want to share some knowledge about the exact stat values you want to strive for. I think people understand the theory behind how cast on crit works but maybe don't have a mental picture of what that translates to stat requirement wise. I know there are many excellent guides out there and I would defer to them where possible. I want to crunch some numbers for you guys to digest but I apologize in advance for any inaccurate information (feedback welcome).

    I just want to make it clear: I'm not saying these stats are what you need to have to have fun with your character. These are the ideal conditions for you to keep in mind as you play/craft, please take that into consideration as you will need to improvise, which is half the fun.

    u/S1rTob1 originally inspired me to play this build and learn the math. Here is his guide (with an excellent video)

    Here is a Sample PoB

    In my opinion, there are 5 key stats you want to optimize to a science when playing CoC FR:

    1. Cooldown
    2. Attack Speed
    3. Crit Chance
    4. Max Cold Resistance
    5. Mana Cost

    Cooldown:

    The existing explanations for cooldown on CoC are very thorough. I will completely defer to this.

    All that I will add is that you need to get at least 52% cdr and in my opinion the easiest way to do it is to get:

    Awakaned Cast On Crit to level 5 (22%)

    + gems on chest (skin of the lords etc.) (3%)

    +3 crit passive mastery (9%)

    elevated shaper cooldown boots or belts (15-20% roll, min 18% assuming woke coc level 9)

    for a total of (52%)

    Do whatever works for you.

    https://preview.redd.it/bmvp5xuai9491.png?width=476&format=png&auto=webp&s=51886391c4f683968ed711e668907f905ec5db17

    Attack Speed:

    You want to hit exactly 10.1 attacks per second with cyclone.

    Cyclone APS =

    base attack speed \*

    increased attack speed \*

    more attack speed \*

    action speed modifier \*

    1. Base attack speed is your weapon attack speed, probably a dagger. You probably want a very high base attack speed.
    2. Increased attack speed is the sum of all your % increased attack speed rolls on cluster jewels and gear etc. They are all additive with each-other.
    3. Cyclone has an inherent 3.0 more multiplier for attack speed
    4. Tailwind provides actions speed modifier. This is 1.1 multiplier with 25% increased effect of tailwind.

    Sample attack speed. 23% tailwind effect, 1.86 aps dagger. 64% increased attack speed from flasks and gear

    64% increased attack speed

    This guide addresses attack speed with a lower cooldown breakpoint

    Crit Chance

    There are far far too many ways to cap your crit chance, do whatever you deem fit. One common option is to get cooldown on belts and run brittle eldritch implicit on boots (very strong). Consider using 2 crit medium clusters and diamond flask + crit chance roll. Then stack power charges where possible. Here are some common sources of crit chance as a starting point:

    On the note of Sniper's Mark vs Assassin's Mark: I know some giga chads are using bottled faith and sniper's mark, but overall its less damage than more projectiles from dying sun, plus dying sun is more consistent. Sniper's mark just looks better for POB dps since other stats are easier to mask.

    Max Cold Resistance

    You want to achieve 90% max cold resistance for Melding of the Flesh effect.

    1. Base + 75%
    2. Aegis + 5%
    3. Purity of Ice level 23 + 5% (get from +2 aura gloves or somethin)
    4. Chest/Gloves implicit eldritch +3%
    5. 25% increased effect of Non-Curse Auras at minimum +2% (easily gotten from the tree or militant faith)

    Lvl 23 Purity of ice gives +5 and inc. aura effect gives +2

    I reduced aura effect on militant faith to calculate the minimum aura effect needed for 90% max res in the above setup.

    Mana Cost

    There are unfortunately not many options here. You need to get your FR mana cost as low as humanly possible. I'm using an increased effect flask for mana cost as well as -18% cost from enchants on boots. To work around flask uptime, you can consider replica conquerors efficiency or a larger -mana cost roll from elreon veiled mods, or you can try to gain flask charges when you're hit to sustain. This is a painful part of the build.

    https://preview.redd.it/naxgo9nul9491.png?width=759&format=png&auto=webp&s=c129a2c8b19514cc2a023cfd92f433546230c420

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    just crafted this shield. any idea what builds can make use of it?

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 08:34 AM PDT

    Maw of Mischief Ignite Elementalist - The Twisted | Cortex | The Feared

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 10:17 AM PDT

    boneshatter slayer uber sirus (havoc616)

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 08:19 AM PDT

    Advice on how to craft these two dex stacking pieces?

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 09:26 AM PDT

    Help w/ LS champ build, no damage

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 03:23 PM PDT

    Hi guys, i'm pretty new to poe (second league) and this league has been really fun with the new atlas changes and i've gone way more indepth this league than the previous one i played including mapping bossing, crafting etc

    I decided to make an LS champion on a whim after farming ~100ex on my leaguestart and dumped a bunch of currency into it including omni and a nice 800 edps claw. But the problem is my character feels weak with okayish gear. Can someone with experience playing this build take a look and see what I'm missing? POB says my full dps is 5.6m which seems really low compared to the POB i'm copying

    Mine: https://pastebin.com/Dkw6QDK1

    Template, pulled off reddit from a user I forgot: https://pastebin.com/fSrbnkj7

    i'm aware I'm missing 100% chance to hit as well as nicer flasks/jewels/gems but the difference between the POBs is a staggering 20mil+ dps without any huge offensive upgrades from the gear as far as I can see just wondering what I am missing

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    Most fun juiced map runner? (70ex or so)

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 04:53 PM PDT

    Wanted to play a bow build but everything is Tshot and I'm not a huge fan. I've played CoC FR, Carrion Golem & Champ spark this league and kinda wanted some explodey screen cancer action before I take off until the next league.

    Looking for T16 Clears, perhaps with juiced abyss delirium and breach or something just for maximum booms.

    Recommendations?

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    What are some "evergreen" builds for each character class?

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 09:48 AM PDT

    I'm a fairly new player and have a friend who wants to try playing for the first time. I wanted to try helping her out by letting her pick a class and giving her one or two "iconic" builds that she can follow. I don't think she needs any meta or OP builds, we might not even play in Sentinel league, I'm just looking for some sturdy, tried-and-true classics that will always feel good.

    My list so far. Again I'm also new so these might not be good or there might be better choices

    Witch - Arc Witch Elementalist

    Ranger - Toxic Rain Raider

    Deulist - Cyclone Slayer

    Shadow - Essense Drain Trickster

    Marauder - Molten Strike Juggernaut

    Templar - Righteous Fire Inquisitor

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    CoC Forbidden Rite guides?

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 07:39 AM PDT

    Curious if anyone knows of good resources for CoC FR.

    I've checked out Tenkiei's and Subtractem's videos and I've looked through poe.ninja, but I'm curious if there's anything that includes some progression, and maybe recombinator crafts before hitting the super expensive high end.

    Have Ashes, Mageblood and Aegis, just working on filling out the other slots to swap into the build.

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    Blade Vortexes of 3.18

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 03:59 PM PDT

    Hey! I've just leveld a witch to 95 thinking i might do somthing with blde vortex and omni.

    Does anyone do this? Trinity ? Cold? Is ashes just a better option?

    I've seen some assassins run Fire with a Bow. Didn't seem so pleasing atm. Might go for it tought, depends on what is «best» for clearing and bossing.

    Can prob put together 150-200EX. Why BV? It's my fav skill. Got an Omni TS, starting to get bored of it. Tips please!

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    Theory Crafting: Ele hit Scion w/ Golems

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 03:13 PM PDT

    Alright so I have spent a quality work day enamored with the idea of a Ele hit Scion with golems. However, I have little to no experience with many of the aspects of my theory crafted build.

    What numbers should I aim for with critical strike chance/multi? How do I get there?

    Is it feasible for me to get to 50-75% all block chance? Would it have to be glancing blows, is GB bad now?

    Do I need flat AD for this build to do damage? Should I focus on flat Ele instead?

    What makes the damage numbers on a bow/ele/crit build pop?

    Any ideas for uniques like intuitive leap or for my gear?

    What auras should I be running? Heralds or the standard Grace/Deter/DB/Enlighten?

    I actually have never played Scion, anything major I should be aware of?

    These are just the main questions that popped in my head today, I think there's a lot more to tinker with before investing my time on the character. I do not need this build to do 300% quant feared. I just want it to work numerically, feel good, and look cool. I prefer survivability over damage especially at the beginning of a build. Let me know if you have any questions or need clarification! Here is the rough draft… of the rough draft of my build: POB

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    Help with Flicker build

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 02:41 PM PDT

    Hello guys,

    It is my first time playing a Flicker build and I kind of hit a wall in my progress so I am looking to see if there is another cheap upgrade I can get to improve my single target damage to be able to do endgame bosses.

    I have 2.9M dps with ancestor totems up and 1.5 without them.

    https://pastebin.com/D0jEfANP

    submitted by /u/Luis276
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    Looking for 150 Ex LS Omni Build

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 02:33 PM PDT

    So I got an Omni, I got 120 Ex in the bank and I got a level 98 Raider.

    I'm also keen on the prospect of leveling a champion, whatever is tankiest tbh, so long as the DPS doesn't vary significantly. Been doing my best trying to find my own, but I frankly can't find one. Mainly because I don't know what to search for or where to look.

    A PoB would be best, but a guide that goes into detail would be great too. I may be overestimating the complexity of this build but I figured it was worth asking.

    submitted by /u/Colactic
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    Lightning DOT

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 04:56 PM PDT

    Possibly a silly question, but does lightning DOT count as ailment?

    I am working on armour stacking champ with doryani's prototype, and I am getting cold feet that with all the new AN mods and the few sources of lightning DOTs already in, the build will feel terrible. I am trying to figure out ways to minimize lightning DOTs.

    Thanks!

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    Best witch build for 20ex? (Assuming I already have Aegis Aurora if it's needed, no spiders)

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 04:53 PM PDT

    Title. I've been playing Arakaali's Fang for a couple of weeks now and while I've had success with it, I'm looking to roll into something else. What would you guys recommend in that price range?

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    Cyclone Slayer Build

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 07:49 AM PDT

    Hi guys, I am a newbie in Poe and I am currently running a cyclone shockwave slayer build which I have already invested a lot. Everything is going well and I am able to beat uber bosses like uber sirus, uber maven and I am pretty happy about it.

    However, one thing that I always want to beat since I have been playing the game is simulacrum and I often die at wave 27/28 with this build. The first thing that goes through my mind is my defenses are not good enough.

    How can I improve my defenses and are there any major problems with my build? Thx!

    Here's my pob:https://pastebin.com/WbMzf25t

    submitted by /u/onisegor
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    Champion build for 60-70 ex Doriyani armor stack or lightning strike?

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 12:41 PM PDT

    I want to do 30 wave simu and uber ubers

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    Improving Seismic Trap

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 04:20 PM PDT

    Most leagues, I get one char to level 90 and start another.

    This league I an looking to min/max seismic trap as much as I can.

    What are the best next steps I can take for my build? Thank you in advance!

    POB: https://pastebin.com/JVQuTCLw

    submitted by /u/szenX
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    Champ CF - How to scale my dmg to +2M?

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 07:32 AM PDT

    Hi,

    Currently I am playing a CF champ which is really tanky but I seem to lack some dmg against good rares/bosses. I know it is not a bossing killer build but currently rares/bosses are dying way too slow for me.

    My goal is to farm some legions with this build so I really want to improve my DPS to above +2M. At the moment I have around 1.3M DPS. My budget is kinda low as I want to farm for a new build with this build.

    Budget to improve: +- 7ex

    My CF dot is only 426K which seems so low (configuration CF). If possible I want it to have +1M dot DPS on it's own. Even adding a second Large Cluster jewel would not set it above +2M DPS. Feels like I am doing something wrong or not scaling correctly.

    I would love to see your feedback on how to improve my DPS even further.

    POB: https://pastebin.com/RPukY7eF

    Thanks in advance, Exile.

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    Are absorption charges not really strong?

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 07:28 AM PDT

    Gravens secret turns power charges into absorption charges, and according to the wiki this makes the downsides of Malachais loop irrelevant. With that it's super easy to have 9 or 10 charge cap. 12% es recoup per charge means 108-120% recoup. On a CI build is that not just ridiculously strong as a defence or am I missing something important here?

    submitted by /u/International-Fly129
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    Help with Int stacker wander

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 04:08 PM PDT

    Hello,

    I managed to save up almost 50 exalts and decided to reroll to an Int stacker (First ever). My Single target feels really bad against bosses and I don't know why. I know that some gems are still low level but even if I put them max level on PoB the numbers are still really low.

    Shouldn't the numbers be higher?

    Can someone please give me some tips?

    https://pobb.in/7O8FZqE3FXTF

    submitted by /u/SecretlySnape
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    Legion farmer

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 03:44 PM PDT

    So I'm considering farming Legion on a map like Dunes and am looking for a build that can clear Sentinel empowered Legions . I've been farming Sentinels on Glacier and want to change it up. My CF Champ doesnt seem to be able to take down empowered Sentinel Legion rares in time when they show up in my maps, and I'm not sure I want to invest the currency to make it possible with this build.

    I was considering FR CoC with Profane Bloom since I could use it to do the rest of the content as well, but I'm hearing that it isnt the greatest at Legion.

    I've been having an itch to play Cold Blade Vortex with HH as well.

    Another option is Palestron's Fulcrum BB Inquisitor.

    I could also convert my Champ to an Aura/Armor stacker and run Dominating Blow or Molten Strike. This would also allow me to run bosses and harder content.

    *edit* Also forgot to mention that I could swap my Champ to a Lancing Steel Champ.

    I would appreciate any feedback. Which of these wont do the job? Thanks!

    submitted by /u/fievelgoespostal
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    How can I improve my character?

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 03:43 PM PDT

    i've been playing LS zerker since league start, and I was wondering if someone could look at my PoB and tell me anything I could improve on, as I still die in juiced t16 maps on occasion. (it very well could just be my playstyle)

    https://pastebin.com/v4P7mEvL

    Thanks in Advance. :D

    submitted by /u/AtticusxD
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    Omni LS Champ gearing/crafting

    Posted: 07 Jun 2022 04:54 AM PDT

    Hello, I am considering on making a Omni LS Champ and am wondering how to gear one, as I haven't played last league so I don't know much about omni LS builds, I only know that you want as much attributes as possible. I guess some slots are pretty easy like ring with double attributes and life + chaos maybe if budget allows it.

    But what about weapons, gloves, shields, chests etc? Where do I want Spell Suppress/Ailment Avoid etc? And which bases? Should I craft some slots myself instead of buying them to save some currency? From a bit of looking around I have seen that items that would have cost like 50+ ex now only cost <20 ex like ele weapons. Where can I save currency and where is it too risky/rng to craft myself?

    Is there perhaps a guide about crafting the items via recombinators and/or with BetterTrading trade links? Also how much currency should I have to get going (semi-juicy altar t16 farming for starters, maybe deli crimson temple at some point or something) after getting a Omni?

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